Nelson and Tim give their take on the latest entry in the Ghostbusters franchise, plus new trailers (including the NEW Spider-man: No Way Home trailer), their watch list (The Wheel of Time, The Shrink Next Door), and Tick, Tick, BOOM!
Movie Review: Finch (AppleTV+)
Now streaming on Apple TV+. Finch is a film directed by Miguel Sapochnik (of Game of Thrones tent poles) starring Tom Hanks and Caleb Landry Jones. After Earth is decimated by a large solar flare, a man named Finch who builds a robot to protect the life of his dog.
Hunkered down in the remains of St. Louis, Finch scours the ruins for food, books, and anything else he can to survive. After Earth’s ozone and atmosphere were critically damaged by a solar flare, humans cannot survive outside without full protective gear. As a massive storm and rising levels of solar radiation bear down on Finch, he hastily completes the build of a robot companion. This film is a tale of what it is to be human as Finch, his robot, and beloved dog flee to safety.
What follows are excerpts from The Final Take podcast, where Nelson and Tim provide their review and final thoughts on the film:
First Impressions
Nelson: Tim, your initial thoughts?
Tim: Wow, I had so many thoughts. You know something? I had not seen a trailer before I watched this, I came in fresh. I didn’t really know what it was all about. I thought when they had the description of it, which I had read, where he’s trying to protect himself from ravagers. I thought there was more people in this film. This was another tour de force film, a la Castaway […] What a performance, he’s essentially doing half the movie almost by himself and the dog […] It was about really clinging on to life and in a world where everyone has died.
N: What it is to be human when nearly all of humanity is lost […] it’s also an interesting take on fatherhood [and] what it’s like to have children. Because he builds the robot, he uploads all kinds of data to the robot so it has a database of information to start from. But the scenes where he’s teaching it to talk and communicating with it for the first time. And teaching it to walk and taking it through life lessons of how to survive in the world. As a relatively new father, for both of us I’ve got a 5-year-old and you have young children as well, it definitely takes you through what it is to be a father [and] what it is to be human. I love this movie.
What Worked
Tim: So, what worked? What do you think worked the best?
Nelson: For me, his relationship with the robot that he builds. And you can see the growth of the robot over time. You can see how he sees it initially as like a tool […] and as he teaches it more, as it learns more. As it grows, you can that switch flip where he gets an understanding of what it’s like to be a father. So that definitely worked for me.
T: For me it was kind of twofold. A lot of the storytelling between the lines. How you interact with somebody. How you’re seeing how he’s getting on with the robot. How he reacts to his dog. How he they act together, especially towards the end […] But also, what I really loved was it had a Sam Shephard-play feel to it in the dialogue […] telling those little stories to provide some exposition. Those were the strengths of the film in how we knew what was going on. There was still a lot of fascinating movie-watching to be had but we still didn’t have the whole story until he had this little monologue […] and I really enjoyed that.
N: Let me ask you a question. At the end of the world, if you can’t be with any other humans, including any family: robot or dog?
T: You know what? Dogs are amazing, I love dogs. They’re going to be an amazing companion. They’re going to snuggle with you. They’re going provide you with a lot of human contact. At a certain point, you’re going to have to…you’re going to have to eat the dog. You didn’t know where this was going did you?
What didn’t work
Nelson: So, Tim, what didn’t work for you?
Tim: I would say the first half did get a little slow after the inciting incident, to break it down in technical terms. But it did get a little slow when they got on the road. Not gonna lie, I just had a huge belly full of popcorn as well. So that didn’t help out [crosstalk] after I put the kids to bed.
N: Don’t blame that on the movie, that’s you […] you’re nitpicking.
T: If I had to be nitpicky, but if they had to cut it down a little bit […] nothing really didn’t work in this. And I thought this was a very, very well-done film.
N: For me, a lot worked in this movie, so this is nitpicking territory. What didn’t work, which again is a different movie for probably a different time, but could he have more human interaction? Could there have been more of that? But I guess that’s been done to death. Right? So, give me a solo Tom Hanks movie, I’m good with it […] A different studio, at a different time probably dives into the ‘humans are the real monsters’ part of these post-apocalyptic stories.
Watch, Stream, or Skip?
Nelson: Watch, stream, or skip for you, Tim?
Tim: It’s a watch AND a stream.
N: Default stream because it’s on AppleTV+ but absolutely watch. And when you do go to stream it on AppleTV+, find the biggest screen possible. There are some incredible visuals for a movie that’s more up close, [tighter] and intimate […] the performances are definitely worth a watch. If you’re not on AppleTV+, they’re churning out some hits right now.
The Final Take: Watch for both Nelson and Tim.
Listen to the entire episode below:
Ep 4: Finch: You're Probably Going to Have to Eat the Dog – The Final Take
Episode 5: What Does Disney+ Day Have to Offer?
Find out what Disney+ Day has to offer and whether it’s a “watch” or a “skip” from Nelson and Tim. Among the many releases, announcements, and trailers form the Mouse House, our host discussed everything from Marvel Studios, Pixar, Disney, and Star Wars. Including Hawkeye, Obi Wan Kenobi, The Beatles: Get Out, and Limitless with Chris Hemsworth.
Episode 4: Finch – You’re Probably Going to Have to Eat the Dog
Nelson and Tim give their take on the Tom Hanks opus, Finch. Plus, new trailers, paying respect to Dean Stockton and Peter Scolari, and Tim talks about his excitement to see Tick, Tick, Boom!
Watch List: Veterans Day Military Films and TV shows
For Veterans Day 2021, Tim and Nelson shared their favorite military films and TV shows. In the past, both of our hosts have had a ritual of marathon watching the entire series of Band of Brothers to celebrate the holiday. In recent years, having families with young children has put this ritual on hold in favor of Disney movie marathons. Never the less, our hosts share their go-to military films and shows should anyone else plan to have their own mid-week November holiday marathon viewing to celebrate our nation’s military veterans. What follows is their lists and a link to the episode should you wish to listen to their discussion:
Tim’s honorable mentions: M*A*S*H, Three Kings, Memphis Belle, Greyhound
Nelson’s honorable mentions: Inglorious Basterds, Full Metal Jacket, Lone Survivor, Zero Dark Thirty, The Hurt Locker
Tim’s Watch list:
- A Few Good Men
- Saving Private Ryan
- Band of Brothers
- Tora! Tora! Tora!
- Flags of Our Fathers
Nelson’s Watch list:
- Blackhawk Down
- Dunkirk
- American Sniper
- The Pacific
- 1917
Bonus list: Here’s a bonus list of movies and TV shows our hosts remembered after recording the episode. Subsequently, they beat themselves up for forgetting:
- The Unit
- Top Gun
- The Thin Red Line
- The Dirty Dozen
- Restrepo
- Glory
- Platoon
- Jarhead
- Apocalypse Now
- Act of Valor
And this is still probably missing a half dozen worthy movies and TV shows to “Watch.” Listen to the full episode below:
Ep 3: Veterans Day: You Can't Handle the Truth! – The Final Take
Episode 3: Veterans Day – You Can’t Handle the Truth!
In this episode, Nelson and Tim talk about what Veterans Day means to them as they cover their favorite military films and TV shows.
Movie Review: Marvel Studios’ Eternals (2021)
Marvel Studios’ latest entry into the MCU, Eternals is directed by the Oscar winning director Chloe Zhao. This movie is jam packed with a star studded cast, featuring Gemma Chan, Richard Madden, Kumail Nanjiani, Brian Tyree Henry, Kit Harington, Salma Hayek, and Angelina Jolie and so many others.
The Eternals are an immortal alien race sent to Earth by a celestial to protect humanity from Deviants, who have re-emerged after the events of The Avengers: End Game where half the population was snapped back into existence. The Eternals were sworn to not interfere with human events where Deviants were not involved, thus allowing world wars, famines, and other world threatening events such as Loki’s invasion and Thanos’ snap to occur. The return of new, evolved Deviants and a much larger threat to Earth bring The Eternals out of hiding.
What follows are excerpts from The Final Take podcast, where Nelson and Tim provide their review and final thoughts on the film:
First Impressions and What didn’t work
Nelson: So, initial thoughts/first impressions?
Tim: First impressions, it was very slow, that was my first impression. A lot of back story, as they’re trying to move the film forward they’re really digging deep into a backstory to try to explain themselves.
N: Introducing all these net new characters [we] haven’t seen before, haven’t heard of them in the previous phases. It’s a lot to unpack, right?
T: Well, it’s tough because nobody has heard of Eternals unless you’re a deep dive comic book fan where you’re actually keeping up with these comics or you have read them in the past, it’s hard to do. Like Guardians of the Galaxy, no one knew who or what [they] were and out comes Guardians of the Galaxy with some style, with some pizazz, with a great soundtrack and it was an overall fun film. It worked, they crushed it. I think this was trying to figure out where their place is in the MCU or where they’re going to go and this is the introduction.
N: It’s a lot to unpack. It’s simultaneously for an entire team of superheroes. The stakes are as big as they get: save the Earth. And then it’s also, seemingly, moving phase 4 of the entire MCU forward by introducing these new elements like this entirely new team of very powerful superheroes, bringing celestials back into the MCU, because you thought Ego was the last one […] it had to do a lot in 2.5-hours. For my first impression, I’m probably going to contradict myself, I agree with you there were points where it felt slow. But at the same time with everything they had to accomplish with this it probably would have made more sense as a 6-part TV show […] it needed more time to tell the story.
T: I have to say in the first couple of scenes I was excited that Jon Snow and Robb Stark were in the same scene for the first time since season 1 of Game of Thrones. All I could think about was Marvels’ Game of Thrones.
N: It worked in places, it didn’t work in places. Generally, I liked it but there were things that could have gone better.
T: I have to agree with you, it was a very long movie. For an introductory movie […] it would have been better suited and probably a little bit more exciting, a little bit more tension had they done an episodic release.
What worked
Nelson: So, let’s roll into what worked then. A beautifully shot movie, looked great. The cast, generally, very good. And I will say, Ikaris drew a lot of Superman parallels because of his powers […] Marvel did a better job of presenting a Superman-like character on film.
Tim: You’re just trying to kill me here, aren’t you?
N: Look, Superman is my favorite comic character. I ride all day for Superman. But no offense to anybody else that’s put Superman on film, I kind of think Marvel did it better […] just the way that he moved, the way the character was presented, how they followed his fight scenes that were often in the air and the lasers shooting. I did enjoy Man of Steel but the presentation of that style of character, Marvel did it better […] What else worked for you?
T: I’m gonna say the performances worked. In particular, Gemma Chan and Kumail Nanjiani.
N: Kingo’s powers are finger guns, man, give me more finger guns!
T: I do think that Gemma Chan really carried the movie and just had emotional range to be that person to provide the audience with that emotional interaction […] and I will say this, Kumail Nanjiani [was] spectacular with the comic relief. He did a fantastic job and he worked very hard to get in shape. I watched him back in the Franklin and Bash days [and] Silicon Valley. For him to get in that kind of shape, I don’t blame him for not wearing sleeves in that production […] and said “Hey look guys, a lot of work went into this and you guys paid for it, so we’re gonna give everyone a ticket to the gun show.”
N: I feel like on subsequent viewings, if you do watch it again, its one of those movies that will grow on you. Think about it, Chloe Zhao is not your typical Marvel director. And the look of it and a bit the feel of it wasn’t your typical Marvel formula […] you’re kind of expecting a certain aesthetic, you’re expecting a certain feel. You’re expecting jokes to land a certain way and felt a little off because it was just a different vision, a different voice […] I would say, generally entertaining. Asked to do a lot of heavy lifting: introducing the characters, pushing the MCU forward. Sometimes the jokes hit, sometimes they didn’t. Sometimes the emotional beats hit, sometimes they didn’t. So, you can see how it was a bit of an uneven film in terms of the critic reaction to it. In general, I was entertained.
The Final Take
Nelson: Well, so what say you, Tim Cox? Final take: watch, stream, or skip on the Eternals?
Tim: I’m gonna say it’s a stream.
N: I think I agree, it’s a stream for me as well, when it becomes available on Disney+ […] for any MCU fans it’s probably going to be a watch. And if you are going to watch it, you should probably see it on IMAX because it’s a comic book film.
The Final Take: Stream for both Nelson and Tim. Unless you’re an MCU fan, then it’s probably a Watch.
Listen to the entire episode below:
Ep 2: Eternals Trying to Find Their Place in the MCU – The Final Take
Episode 2: Eternals Trying to Find Their Place in the MCU
In episode 2, Nelson and Tim discuss what shows they’re watching (including Succession season 3 on HBO Max, AP Bio on Peacock), upcoming streaming releases (The Harder They Fall & Love Hard on Netflix, Finch on AppleTV+), and they review Marvel’s Eternals.
Movie Review: Dune (2021)
Denis Villeneuve brings the first half of Frank Herbert’s 1965 novel to life with an epic adaptation and an incredible all-star cast. Starring Timothée Chalamet, Rebecca Ferguson, Oscar Isaac, Dave Bautista, Stellan Skarsgård, Zendaya, Javier Bardem, Josh Brolin, and Jason Momoa.
Dune follows Paul Atreides (Timothée Chalamet), born into a powerful family that is entrusted to govern a dangerous planet called Arrakis. Mostly devoid of life, the highly contested planet holds a precious resource called spice that is essential to interstellar travel and guarantees the family controlling it incredible wealth, power, and influence. House Atreides intends to govern fairly by sharing profits with the indigenous people, the Fremen. However, open conflict erupts between House Atredies and House Harkonnen, the previous stewards of Arrakis, putting the Paul and the future of House Atreides in peril.
What follows are excerpts from The Final Take podcast, where Nelson and Tim provide their review and final thoughts on the film:
Nelson: So, Watch, Stream, or Skip? For me it’s a watch. For everything mentioned before: epic scale, incredible visuals. All the world building, storytelling, the political maneuvering. All of it. I say watch, but then also if you’ve got HBO Max, go ahead and stream it.
Tim: Absolutely, that’s how we had to do it. Obviously, having small kids it’s harder to get to the movie theaters. As much as it would have been epic to watch this on the 70mm IMAX down the street, I would have to say watch. We watched it [by] whatever means we could. And I concur with you on that one. As epic as it was to really set it up and then tear it down and then to lead into something that’s going to be even more epic, I cannot wait.
N: Yes, they primed the audience. You got a 2.5-hour nibble, maybe [for the sequel] they go 3 hours.
T: I know everyone expressed their disappointment for not just going exclusively to theaters and doing a streaming online. I even had a friend of mine that said “I started to watch it and I shut it off and I literally just got in my car and went straight to the movie theater and watched it.” It was phenomenal. And to take a gamble on just telling half of the book […] I’m just excited for what’s next in the world of Dune.
N: If they do a 3-hour director’s cut, sign me up. And then if Dune: part 2 is over 3-hours, sign me up as well.
T: It’s possible, I think they can do that now. We’ve really hit an era where if movies really prove themselves, sequels and subsequent films that are related can actually be 3-hours in the movie theater which is amazing.
The Final Take: Watch for both Nelson and Tim.
Listen to the entire episode below:
Ep 1: Do We Need Another Dune? Also, Lightyear and The Book of Boba Fett – The Final Take
Episode 1: Do We Need Another Dune? Also, Lightyear and The Book of Boba Fett
In our inaugural episode we talk Pixar’s Lightyear and The Book of Boba Fett trailers, as well as an in-depth review of the sci-fi epic, Dune!
