Episode 8: Hawkeye – Everything Old is New in the MCU

Nelson and Tim talk their TV watchlist, Nelson gives his trailer pitch for upcoming films, and they review the latest entry in the Marvel “Cinematic” Universe, Hawkeye. Don’t forget the “Haiku Review!”

Watch List: Thanksgiving and Family Gathering Films and TV shows

Thanksgiving, yet another mid-week holiday in November that brings families together for a big ol’ meal of turkey, heaps of carbs, bad football games, and the gateway to Christmas. Tim and Nelson compiled a watch list celebrating Thanksgiving. Since that list is quite not as overflowing as the other Fall holidays (Veterans Day and Christmas) they included movies and TV shows with family gatherings because what holiday does awkward, family drama like Thanksgiving? What follows is their list and a link to the episode should you wish to listen to their discussion:

TV Episodes

  • Friends – The One with All the Thanksgivings (s5e8), The One Where Ross Got High (s6e9) 
  • How I Met Your Mother – Slapsgiving (s3e9), Slapsgiving 2 Revenge of the Slap (s5e9)
  • A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving

Movies

  • Meet the Fockers – “If it’s brown flush it down, if it’s yellow let it mellow”
  • The Royal Tenenbaums – “That’s the last time you put steel in me”
  • Knives Out
  • Scent of a Woman
  • You’ve Got Mail
  • Son in Law
  • Paul Blart: Mall Cop
  • Free Birds
  • Planes, Trains, and Automobiles 

Listen to the full episode below:

Ep 7: Thanksgiving: Friends, Slaps, and John Candy The Final Take

Movie Review: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021)

Ghostbusters: Afterlife, directed by Jason Reitman. This film stars McKenna Grace, Finn Wolfhard, Paul Rudd, and Carrie Coon. The movie follows a single mother and her children when they arrive in a small town in Oklahoma to close her late father’s estate. A series supernatural events lead her children to discover their connection to the original Ghostbusters.

What follows are excerpts from The Final Take podcast, where Nelson and Tim provide their review and final thoughts on the film:

First Impressions/What worked

Tim: What were your first impressions of this film?

Nelson: Go watch this movie, that’s the podcast, thanks for listening. It was very good. When I say “What’s old is new again” I mean it […] there’s an entire generation of kids that don’t really know who the Ghostbusters are. And, of course, in the movie world they’ve forgotten who they are as well. When you have these nostalgia pieces, it’s so easy to get wrong. You have the [prequel] trilogy from Star Wars where they leaned way too into the CG. Or you have these stories of the original characters that are not true to the original character. It’s so easy to get these things wrong. And yet this film gets everything bit right. All the emotional beats are there. There are special effects but they don’t lean into it too much. […] It’s Ghostbusters for a new generation but also has a lot of nods to the original in so many clever, funny, little ways. So, I love this movie.

T: I have to agree with you there. It really just had that element of, it paid homage to the original Ghostbusters film. And I don’t even want to say the second one. It really pays homage to the first one. Because I know that Bill Murray wasn’t happy with the second film because they felt they had to get it out. It was rushed. And after that film, he had actually said that he would only come back if the script was good […] and this was so, so well done. Paying tribute to Harold Ramis […] this film truly, truly respected what Harold Ramis and Dan Aykroyd set out to do with Ghostbusters and executed it perfectly.

*****

Nelson: The next generation, the younger cast members in the film…excellent! McKenna Grace who plays Phoebe, she plays the daughter in this, there’s another movie she’s in called Troop Zero on Amazon. She plays a very similar, quirky character. She’s really, really good. And then Finn Wolfhard, Stranger Things, if there’s anyone that knows anything about nostalgia (it’s him).

Tim: You know what surprised me the most was actually Paul Rudd doing this film. Coming from Ant Man, coming from being now an A-list actor, he took a smaller, quirky little role. He was kind of the Rick Moranis of this film when you think about it […] he played that very left-of-center character in this film that was the antithesis of everything that this little town stands for. This little town in Oklahoma.

N: The best part is that he, seemingly, is one of the heroes. And he plays this seismologist who definitely thinks that he’s the hero. I just love that, where he’s the champion for science. And I think that’s great. As a father, in trying to teach my son where learning is cool, I feel that. When he’s talking about science, in the movie there’s a couple lines where he’s describing his love for science. And there’s so many times I can totally relate when I was trying to relate to my son about how awesome science is.

T: That’s true. I gotta say that probably the best parts of this film, despite the ghostbusting and all that fun action, is actually Paul Rudd and McKenna Grace’s scenes together. Those are the best scenes in this entire film. They’re just so weird and quirky. And they’re so entertaining at the same time.  

N: And I definitely love how he’s definitely the hero of his own story in this. He just plays it fantastic.

*****

Tim: I have to say, at the very end, I got emotional.

Nelson: I turned to you, and I pointed at my arm and I said “Goosebumps!” It’s so good, this movie is really good. I know we’re trampling all over ‘What Worked’ because we both enjoyed this movie. Another thing is they didn’t over do the CG, they didn’t over do the effects. I think it’s like the first 40-50 minutes until you see what seems like a special effect […] they really, really waited before they started getting into, throwing in the CG ghosts and using the proton packs all that stuff.

T: They didn’t over do those scenes either, they made them quick and they moved past them to keep the story going […] They also did what kids can do, they did what they discovered […] Jason Reitman, I have to say, truly honored my childhood by making this film. It was very much for the fans and that’s what I appreciated the most.

The Final Take

Tim: Alright, Final Take: would you Watch, Stream, or Skip?

Nelson: Yeah, that’s not even a discussion, I said as the very beginning of this topic, it’s a Watch. You’ve gotta watch it. Go watch it on the biggest screen possible. And go watch it multiple times so we get more of it.

T: That’s right, I agree with that. That is definitely a Watch. I would watch it again.

The Final Take: Watch for both Nelson and Tim.

Listen to the entire episode below:

Ep 6: Ghostbusters Afterlife: Is It Too Late To Call? The Final Take

Episode 6: Ghostbusters Afterlife – Is It Too Late to Call?

Nelson and Tim give their take on the latest entry in the Ghostbusters franchise, plus new trailers (including the NEW Spider-man: No Way Home trailer), their watch list (The Wheel of Time, The Shrink Next Door), and Tick, Tick, BOOM!

Movie Review: Finch (AppleTV+)

Now streaming on Apple TV+. Finch is a film directed by Miguel Sapochnik (of Game of Thrones tent poles) starring Tom Hanks and Caleb Landry Jones. After Earth is decimated by a large solar flare, a man named Finch who builds a robot to protect the life of his dog.

Hunkered down in the remains of St. Louis, Finch scours the ruins for food, books, and anything else he can to survive. After Earth’s ozone and atmosphere were critically damaged by a solar flare, humans cannot survive outside without full protective gear. As a massive storm and rising levels of solar radiation bear down on Finch, he hastily completes the build of a robot companion. This film is a tale of what it is to be human as Finch, his robot, and beloved dog flee to safety.

What follows are excerpts from The Final Take podcast, where Nelson and Tim provide their review and final thoughts on the film:

First Impressions

Nelson: Tim, your initial thoughts?

Tim: Wow, I had so many thoughts. You know something? I had not seen a trailer before I watched this, I came in fresh. I didn’t really know what it was all about. I thought when they had the description of it, which I had read, where he’s trying to protect himself from ravagers. I thought there was more people in this film. This was another tour de force film, a la Castaway […] What a performance, he’s essentially doing half the movie almost by himself and the dog […] It was about really clinging on to life and in a world where everyone has died.

N: What it is to be human when nearly all of humanity is lost […] it’s also an interesting take on fatherhood [and] what it’s like to have children. Because he builds the robot, he uploads all kinds of data to the robot so it has a database of information to start from. But the scenes where he’s teaching it to talk and communicating with it for the first time. And teaching it to walk and taking it through life lessons of how to survive in the world. As a relatively new father, for both of us I’ve got a 5-year-old and you have young children as well, it definitely takes you through what it is to be a father [and] what it is to be human. I love this movie.

What Worked

Tim: So, what worked? What do you think worked the best?

Nelson: For me, his relationship with the robot that he builds. And you can see the growth of the robot over time. You can see how he sees it initially as like a tool […] and as he teaches it more, as it learns more. As it grows, you can that switch flip where he gets an understanding of what it’s like to be a father. So that definitely worked for me.

T: For me it was kind of twofold. A lot of the storytelling between the lines. How you interact with somebody. How you’re seeing how he’s getting on with the robot. How he reacts to his dog. How he they act together, especially towards the end […] But also, what I really loved was it had a Sam Shephard-play feel to it in the dialogue […] telling those little stories to provide some exposition. Those were the strengths of the film in how we knew what was going on. There was still a lot of fascinating movie-watching to be had but we still didn’t have the whole story until he had this little monologue […] and I really enjoyed that.

N: Let me ask you a question. At the end of the world, if you can’t be with any other humans, including any family: robot or dog?

T:  You know what? Dogs are amazing, I love dogs. They’re going to be an amazing companion. They’re going to snuggle with you. They’re going provide you with a lot of human contact. At a certain point, you’re going to have to…you’re going to have to eat the dog. You didn’t know where this was going did you?

What didn’t work

Nelson: So, Tim, what didn’t work for you?

Tim: I would say the first half did get a little slow after the inciting incident, to break it down in technical terms. But it did get a little slow when they got on the road. Not gonna lie, I just had a huge belly full of popcorn as well. So that didn’t help out [crosstalk] after I put the kids to bed.

N: Don’t blame that on the movie, that’s you […] you’re nitpicking.

T: If I had to be nitpicky, but if they had to cut it down a little bit […] nothing really didn’t work in this. And I thought this was a very, very well-done film.

N: For me, a lot worked in this movie, so this is nitpicking territory. What didn’t work, which again is a different movie for probably a different time, but could he have more human interaction? Could there have been more of that? But I guess that’s been done to death. Right? So, give me a solo Tom Hanks movie, I’m good with it […] A different studio, at a different time probably dives into the ‘humans are the real monsters’ part of these post-apocalyptic stories.

Watch, Stream, or Skip?

Nelson: Watch, stream, or skip for you, Tim?

Tim: It’s a watch AND a stream.

N: Default stream because it’s on AppleTV+ but absolutely watch. And when you do go to stream it on AppleTV+, find the biggest screen possible. There are some incredible visuals for a movie that’s more up close, [tighter] and intimate […] the performances are definitely worth a watch. If you’re not on AppleTV+, they’re churning out some hits right now.

The Final Take: Watch for both Nelson and Tim.

Listen to the entire episode below:

Ep 4: Finch: You're Probably Going to Have to Eat the Dog The Final Take

Episode 5: What Does Disney+ Day Have to Offer?

Find out what Disney+ Day has to offer and whether it’s a “watch” or a “skip” from Nelson and Tim. Among the many releases, announcements, and trailers form the Mouse House, our host discussed everything from Marvel Studios, Pixar, Disney, and Star Wars. Including Hawkeye, Obi Wan Kenobi, The Beatles: Get Out, and Limitless with Chris Hemsworth.

Episode 4: Finch – You’re Probably Going to Have to Eat the Dog

Nelson and Tim give their take on the Tom Hanks opus, Finch. Plus, new trailers, paying respect to Dean Stockton and Peter Scolari, and Tim talks about his excitement to see Tick, Tick, Boom!

Watch List: Veterans Day Military Films and TV shows

For Veterans Day 2021, Tim and Nelson shared their favorite military films and TV shows. In the past, both of our hosts have had a ritual of marathon watching the entire series of Band of Brothers to celebrate the holiday. In recent years, having families with young children has put this ritual on hold in favor of Disney movie marathons. Never the less, our hosts share their go-to military films and shows should anyone else plan to have their own mid-week November holiday marathon viewing to celebrate our nation’s military veterans. What follows is their lists and a link to the episode should you wish to listen to their discussion:

Tim’s honorable mentions: M*A*S*H, Three Kings, Memphis Belle, Greyhound

Nelson’s honorable mentions: Inglorious Basterds, Full Metal Jacket, Lone Survivor, Zero Dark Thirty, The Hurt Locker

Tim’s Watch list:

  • A Few Good Men
  • Saving Private Ryan
  • Band of Brothers
  • Tora! Tora! Tora!
  • Flags of Our Fathers

Nelson’s Watch list:

  • Blackhawk Down
  • Dunkirk
  • American Sniper
  • The Pacific
  • 1917

Bonus list: Here’s a bonus list of movies and TV shows our hosts remembered after recording the episode. Subsequently, they beat themselves up for forgetting:

  • The Unit
  • Top Gun
  • The Thin Red Line
  • The Dirty Dozen
  • Restrepo
  • Glory
  • Platoon
  • Jarhead
  • Apocalypse Now
  • Act of Valor

And this is still probably missing a half dozen worthy movies and TV shows to “Watch.” Listen to the full episode below:

Ep 3: Veterans Day: You Can't Handle the Truth! The Final Take